VF Commodore: have your say!

Posted by Dylan Campbell at 10:45 am on Sunday February 10, 2013

001-VF CalaisV Show Car-01You’ve just seen pictures of the new VF Commodore. And there’s an opinion in you dying to be heard. An educated, articulated opinion, of course, because you know your stuff.

We want to hear it. This is, after all, the last Commodore ever.

Or is it? Holden boss Mike Devereux threw a cat among the pigeons on Friday by saying that Holden has started work on the VF Commodore’s replacement, due in 2017.

So tell us two things.

1. In your gut, what do you truly, honestly think about the VF Commodore? Has Holden nailed the styling, or stuffed it up?

2. Is this the last true Commodore? Would you buy a Commodore if it was really just some American thing, with a sandpapery V6 and front-wheel-drive?

You don’t need an account to post a comment so please, crack those fingers and be frank. We want to hear it. And so does Holden.

  1. neil said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:04 am Link to comment Report comment

    if holdens are going to stop building rear wheel drive cars the might as well shut the doors as we will go and buy BMW’s aa much better car anyway

  2. brett said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:14 am Link to comment Report comment

    like the look the baack does look like the chevy malibu thou most impressed with the interior and the new technology packed in as a Ve s2 SS wagon owner i am looking forward to seeing the replacment and agree on the next gen commodore if it went away from RWD i would wait to last of the vf model and buy one

  3. Mick Z said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:16 am Link to comment Report comment

    Exterior changes look fine, but the interior is a revelation. We have a VE Sportwagon, which is a good car in every respect except for the design and quality of the dashboard and centre console. If Holden improve quality as much as they have the design, then I would buy a VF. It’ll be interesting to read about mechanical changes closer to the release date.

  4. monty said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:36 am Link to comment Report comment

    looks so much like a mazda at the rear when r holden going to stop copying everyone else and design their own car sorry its a fugly

  5. Mcshazel said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:38 am Link to comment Report comment

    It’s a strange, warm feeling i get looking at this car i’m unsure if i aprove of this as the next commodore i really want to know the wieght and power out put of these for both 6 and 8 maybe then i will be able to decide if i like it or not

  6. patsy said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 11:56 am Link to comment Report comment

    i want one

  7. Ianqld said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 12:38 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I wish they include a high performance/efficiency 4cylinder with super/turbo charging, a large car which would be much more economical to run and maintain

  8. nlqld said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 1:49 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I kinda like the interior fix ups and lay out, but I don’t like the idea of an electronically controlled handbrake. to be honest i would prefer the Top Gear guess of the exterior, with the Camero styled rear lights. I do believe an option suggested by lanqld should be available, since there is the ford ecoboost, where there needs to be more bang for less fuel

  9. internationalist said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Honestly Holden did very well with this last Australian full update.
    Very upmarket and almost Tuetonic ( Opel ) exterior looks and American ( Chevrolet )inspired but well thought out interior.

    Once this design ends I expect the next Commodore to platform share with Chevrolet in chassis and engine and some bodywork pieces ( think a cross between American Impala and Malibu in dimensions ) – could be a FWD in-line 4 possibly with turbo also FWD normal aspirated V-6 and a FWD and/or 4WD twin-turbo V-6 for performance version. There might still be life for V8 – think 60%-40% chance.

  10. Mick said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I will reserve full judgement until the SS is released, but Holden have stepped up significantly for the better. The new Commodore is definitely a big step forward, in terms of technology, design and safety, but I’m not sold on the rear end just yet.

  11. Penguin said...
    Sunday February 10, 2013 at 9:08 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I’m now a Holden fan! Awesome interior and neat styling. Hopefully v8 ss has more than 300 kilowatts. Rear drive is a must Holden so never ditch it and maybe sell it in the UK as well!! Thanks

  12. robbof1 said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 6:36 am Link to comment Report comment

    Is that the new Commodore or the new Kia Optima? I’m confused, what’s it trying to be?

  13. calebjansell123 said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm Link to comment Report comment

    That is a great looking piece of steel. Is it just me or a Holdens geteting prettier?

  14. RPDM said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 2:30 pm Link to comment Report comment

    It looks like the vauxhall insignia, in the UK, which was released in 2009 so in my eyes is already dated. lets hope the HSV version is better!

  15. John said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 7:33 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Awful. I’m a Holden fan, and it looks like they decided that the Koreans better design the front, and gave some nerd to much chrome which was put on just about everywhere.

    Crap design.

  16. Zac Thompson said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 9:19 pm Link to comment Report comment

    No it looks worse than the VE.

    The VE was distinctive, angular and aggressive. The VF looks like an overdone facelift of the VE, the front looks plain, like Holden’s Korean-built models and the rest of the vehicle looks like poorly-designed American car.

    Please change it back Holden!!!

  17. Dee said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 9:22 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I love the look. I’ve never bought a holden before (previously owned high performance japs and now drive an AWD magna), but would now conisider a cruze (lack of power would probably put me off) and this new VF looks great. As others have said, if this becomes the last RWD Aussie built car, I’ll be lining up to grab the last icon of Australia, and will probably never buy a holden again.

  18. Zac Thompson said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 9:24 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Also, please don’t go front wheel drive!

    The Commodore is a great car, that I’m proud to call Australian. But by making the new Commodore look like a hybrid of Holden’s Korean models and the uninspiring aesthetics of every American-built car, the Commodore becomes so bland and forgettable.

    If this is the last Commodore, I’ll look back in 40 years and think the VE was the *real* last Commodore.

  19. seebo767 said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 9:34 pm Link to comment Report comment

    not sure about the boot to bumper bar space /gap bit chunky looking for my liking apart from that pretty nice looking car and the interior is pretty sweet but dont think ill trade my G6E Turbo on one just yet ill wait for the specs on the GTS to come out to see if the GT or the GTS will be in my stable in the near future

  20. Carl said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 10:24 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Love the back and inside is heaps better, but the rest looks about the same. Still a good car

  21. The general said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm Link to comment Report comment

    This is definitely a step up tek wise for the humble Holden. Companies that don’t keep up with “the tek” will start to fall behind. Design wise it’s a good progression to more of a world car. The interior looks sharper although it could still look better. The stripe down the middle of the seat isn’t necessary and the heavy slab of vinyl over the speedo just doesn’t look right. The interior, although much improved still needs finessing perhaps with a lighter hand. Hopefully interior quality is to the fore with this car. Switch gear that’s solid and makes the right sound is important. Finally if you blokes at Holden really think that Australians are going to buy a front wheel drive four cylinder car you’ve got a kangaroo lose in the top paddock. Soon the only rear wheelers will be BMW’s and Mercedes. Please don’t give me an excuse to buy one of those.

  22. sik mik said...
    Monday February 11, 2013 at 10:56 pm Link to comment Report comment

    ass looks better,nose is worse.wonder how much the “auto reverse park” and “electric handbrake” will cost to replace in a few years time!

  23. GinJar said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 10:27 am Link to comment Report comment

    Polarising. But PLEASE holden, keep making Rear Wheel Drive cars…So much more fun. Not sure about the new nose, i personally liked the agressive stance of the VE.

    Interior setup is worlds ahead, as long as it feels well put together – but its sad to see the window controls moved onto the drivers door, but the moving the boot release is a good idea.

    Hopefully it has more power like starting at 210kW??? And hopefully they sort out the auto ‘box too and make it a bit sharper… will br following with interest though…

  24. backofburke said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 10:53 am Link to comment Report comment

    Wow, Holden must be scraping the barrel for design talent. I can’t help thinking how Korean this car looks all around. And is it just me, or are daytime running led lights starting to become a bit LAME?
    Sure, the interior looks good. But, let’s face it. It’s hardly leading edge tech & design. If you want the best in design et al, then it’s hard to go past a Merc. The AMG has a much more awesome V8 growl than any Chevy ever will!!!
    Oh, & Holden is as much Australian as Vegemite is. YES, that’s right. They are both owned by AMERICAN companies. I wish the media would stop talking about this be last great Aussie car (what a lot of bollocks).

  25. awyea said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 11:25 am Link to comment Report comment

    Interior looks great, rear looks good, but the front….looks like an Epica, or old Camry or Sebring. What’s with manufacturers today and making the fronts of cars look like they’ve been stung by bees?

  26. Dylan Campbell said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 11:30 am Link to comment Report comment

    Thanks for all the opinions, folks. Keep them coming. We will be forwarding this blog to our contacts at Holden.

  27. Jeremy Duffy said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 1:30 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Love the car
    Can’t wait for the race car versions

  28. Jeremy Duffy said...
    Tuesday February 12, 2013 at 1:34 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I would definitely buy this car
    The looks rival more expensive European cars
    Love the interior as well
    Can’t wait for ss and HSV versions

  29. Ben said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 9:21 am Link to comment Report comment

    Just answer me this …

    If you were going to spend 60 grand on a car. Why wouldn’t you get a BMW 5 series? Why would you get a Commodore?

    If you take Aussie pride and all that bs out of it, it makes far more sense to get something like a beemer or even an Audi.

    I think it looks alright – but that’s all they ever do. They looked alright, but they’re never anything special for me. And performance-wise, the ones I have driven have been pathetic.

  30. Ben said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 9:26 am Link to comment Report comment

    balls, I meant the 3 series.

  31. Ben said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 10:00 am Link to comment Report comment

    Well, let’s be honest here – both would be better than the Commodore.

    Sorry for repeated posts but there’s no edit option on previous posts. Get with the times TG.

  32. me said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 10:55 am Link to comment Report comment

    Nice Camry

  33. DRDAZ said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 11:19 am Link to comment Report comment

    It’s a Calais so it will look soft, but those Epica headlights, Malibu taillights and Daewoo side vents.
    Styling makes the large car look large. Eg Aurion and Camry, same car, but one has large car stying. Consumers are turning away from large cars so why make it look large?
    Love the interior, finally upmarket.
    Aussie cars great value, get out there and support your mates.

  34. Dino said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 11:22 am Link to comment Report comment

    I like the styling, although the boot looks like the previous model Camry/Aurion. Hopefully the interior quality will be as improved as the look. This was a weakness of the previous model.

  35. its just me said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm Link to comment Report comment

    ben for 90k+ you can have a 335i beamer with 225kw and 400nm
    for 170k+ you could have an audi s6 with 309kw and 550 nm
    an amg c63 will set you back at least 160k for 336kw and 600nm
    or you can get a holden ssv sedan for a touch over 50k 270kw 550nm capped servicing
    the euros are nice cars but there nowhere near the value for money

  36. Jondalar said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 12:58 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Not sure about the softer external look but I do really like the new interior. However with more and more buying SUV’s and 4WD’s myself included, I don’t see a future for a large sedan built just for our market.

  37. Nissan Man said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 1:05 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Hey it looks good to me can’t wait for the SS & HSV to come out, just as long as they can beat those fords,on the track

  38. Frank said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 1:36 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Ben your an Idiot, 60 grand will buy you probably a 10 yr old BMW 5 Series.

  39. backofburke said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 1:42 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Why would anyone be expecting the hsv model to look any less Korean? All they’ll have on is a body kit & a sickly paint job. So, why bother? I’d prefer to get a second hand Porsche (with log books et al). It’ll outrun any dunnydoor (ah, I mean commodore).Actually, for the sort of money they’ll be asking for the hsv models, I could easily get a WRX or EVO X, & blow all the dunnydoors (oops, there I go again. I mean commodore)off the road.
    DRDAZ, what mates are we exactly supposed to be supporting? Holden aint Australian mate. It’s American (GMH parent company).

  40. scollop said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 2:33 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Looks like a Mazda from the back

  41. Werewolf said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 4:13 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Looks a very good effort and it is pleasing that Holden is taking such an interest in the interior, as that’s where we spend most of our time!
    I will be very interested in seeing it “in the flesh”.

  42. ncerp said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 5:50 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Great looking car afer having two VE this will be a great change. The inside of VF looks new and clean Ford needs to pick up act and follow a great lead

  43. Nick said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 6:57 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I took one look at the rear wing they’ve designed for the new VF V8 Supercar and it turned me completely off the VF. I hope there’s an option to put on a better looking rear wing, because the Ford V8 Supercar/Falcon GT/FPV boxy-looking spoiler design is the worst spoiler ever fitted to any cars.

    And by the way, backofburke, does that make Opel American too? They’re owned by GM as well. Aston Martin used to be owned by Ford. Does that mean that Aston Martin changed their nationality to American the moment Ford bought them out? And does it also then mean that they changed to a different nationality when they were sold again? I don’t think so.

  44. Ramjet said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 9:27 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Not sure if going from a Euro design to an American/Korean look is what the market is looking for. This car makes the XR6 look athletic in comparison.

  45. pucko said...
    Wednesday February 13, 2013 at 9:35 pm Link to comment Report comment

    there is no way i would buy some front drive so called replacement for the commodore

  46. Devin said...
    Thursday February 14, 2013 at 1:00 am Link to comment Report comment

    Clearly a copy of the Toyota Camry!

  47. commo lova said...
    Thursday February 14, 2013 at 9:38 am Link to comment Report comment

    the styling has followed suit with a true commodore,am looking forward to seeing what Hsv will do with it….and for gods sake Holden dont make them front wheel drive its a sin cause no commo lover will buy one….we love rear wheel drive….

  48. dave said...
    Thursday February 14, 2013 at 2:27 pm Link to comment Report comment

    A bit too large , and too expensive for sure . How many Commodores would they sell at $29990 . Best seller again .
    Looks : Commodores almost always look great and this is no exception . The pseudo spoiler has me thinking maybe a bit crass but in the flesh might be better . Interior hints of Nissan but again lokks great . Aussie built means build is better than some , worse than most .
    But…..local jobs , national pride , and rear wheel drive .
    9/10 and better than most cars on the road .
    Now off to the shops in my Micra ……

  49. Penguin said...
    Thursday February 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Amazing interior, you would be insane to buy the current one when this is being released in a few months. I would love to see the ute and sports wagon variants too!

  50. CMun said...
    Friday February 15, 2013 at 12:08 am Link to comment Report comment

    I hate all Commodores, they were clearly designed and built by bogans.

  51. Fluffy Duck said...
    Friday February 15, 2013 at 12:08 am Link to comment Report comment

    This isn’t a Commodore, it’s just a big Cruze. I want the real Commodore back – the one that doesn’t look asian. Yes I do think they stuffed it up, no I would not buy it if it was an American car with a sandpapery V6 and front wheel drive.

  52. GinJar said...
    Friday February 15, 2013 at 10:17 am Link to comment Report comment

    Check out the VF SS then – looks waaaay sexier than the Calais does. Less chintzy chrome and a more aggressive, evil stance to scare other road users out of the way…. Still better than a ford :)

  53. JIM said...
    Friday February 15, 2013 at 3:02 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I am tired of SUVs and currently in the market for a wagon. So where is it? Some ecpxcellent pricing on the old sportwagon. Should I take the good price or wait for the new one? Mmmmm

  54. JIM said...
    Friday February 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Somebody w anted a BMW in their comment, yes if you want a UK police car! I will not pay the premium over European prices never mind the USA prices for BMW or mercs. I just will not be ripped off. I am European and travel there a lot so will not pay the premium for an extremely common car. Great cars horrible prices. I am not yet Australian enough to be ripped off!!

  55. Penguin said...
    Saturday February 16, 2013 at 2:34 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Does the ss have real carbonfibre or is it fake? Please reply!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. Jesus said...
    Sunday February 17, 2013 at 6:05 pm Link to comment Report comment

    In my opinion Holden messed up the rear end, the lights just dont look right. Apart from that the car looks good. I hope they put a proper spoiler on the SS, the bootlid spoiler does not go with the agressive styling of the rest of the car. The interior is amazing, Holden really upped their game.I just hope that HSV can work their magic on the rear end and make what could possibly be one of the best looking Holdens of all time.

  57. lockdog said...
    Tuesday February 19, 2013 at 9:08 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Love the styling, particularly the rear. Seeing the SSV, the rear looks so much more up market and not as cheap as the VE. I like the aggressive lines of the VE better, but understand this design is more accessible to the general public, not just the traditional Holden boy racer. Beautiful interior. Anything was a step up from VE.
    Was actually part funded by Chev – good decision to get more into this crucial update. Money was spent in all the right places, tired exterior and interior design, and ergonomics. Engine will have to wait till 2017, but Gen V will be great.
    No FWD for replacement. Will be on shared alpha platform with Cadillac. People will run in droves from FWD Commodore/epsillon in an already saturated FWD market.

  58. limagolf said...
    Thursday February 21, 2013 at 7:48 pm Link to comment Report comment

    The new SS, and the Calais, look quite good in my opinion. It’s a real shame that they might go FWD, hope they don’t.
    I also hope they haven’t skipped out on the SV6 and other regular V6 models, and have improved the engine etc. like the V8s. The SV6 in particular is a great sporty model, for those with fuel considerations too.
    Would like to see a bigger spoiler too, but that’s just personal preference.

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